Topic: [Metin2 sea fake??] Very important thing, please read .

Just read this... i won't saying nothing about this... i just don't understand .
Click here > http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?sid=32242d0872780d747c916433ee3c0a56&lastaction=login&f=9&t=649

I could be mistaken, but i believe thats just covering their bases for the purpose of legalities. Similiarly to how G4box said that people under the age of 18 are forbidden to play but they let them be mods anyway. Basically it's just legal posturing; They're covering their asses. I don't see any reason to be concerned with it.

i cant even get to that link =o

That link doesnt work, but maybe he wanted to show this:
http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=649&sid=f2a1f3309c47984db2999b90441c0f8f

The Question of topic starter:

My friend sent an e-mail to ymir asking to answer to some questions. Here are the emails :

Question :

Hello.
I'm a Metin2.it player since 2006.
Since everyone is talking about this new version of Metin2, and a lot of people are abandoning the european/GF versions, I'd like to know directly from you if it's something true or if it's a colossal hoax. Looking for info on Google, there are no results about the TEC-INTERCATIVE LTD. that's supposed to have bought Metin2 rights from you. And on your Metin2 homepage, TEC-INTERACTIVE is not listed among the companies that own the rights of the game.

Is it true that you have sold the rights of Metin2 to TEC-INTERACTIVE LTD.? And is it true that the announced new version of Metin2 (SEA) has features like lv. 85 weapons, lv. 95 metins, lots of maps and tradable item-malls?

Thanks in advance and best regards.

Answer :

Dear T***
Thank you for enjoying our game, Metin2.
I am a marketing manager from Ymir Entertainment.

I will answer for your question simply.

- It's true that there will be Metin2 SEA.
- But it's an Enlgish version for Asian users only.
In other words, users from Asia only can access and enjoy the game, because we will block IPs from other regions except Asia.
- And, we will provide the partner in Singapore with the very same version with Metin2 NA and Metin2 UK.
- So, you can think it's not a correct information that the version will have special items, maps, or special in-game features.

I hope this e-mail is helpful to make you less confused.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards,
Marketing manager from Ymir Entertainment


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Marketing Manager, Raphael KIM
Ymir Entertainment Co., Ltd　

Office: 82.2.333.5667
Fax: 82.2.335.3900
E-mail: ymirmarketer@gmail.com
　
More than future, better than future, Ymir Entertainment: http://www.ymirgames.co.kr/
2D MMORPG superior to 3D games, METIN1: http://www.metin.co.kr
Full 3D MMORPG with exquisite pleasure, METIN2: http://www.metin2.co.kr
YMIR's OP.3, INFERNA: http://www.inferna.co.kr

So ... Who should we believe? Why have you always told us Metin Sea is for everybody?
I'd like to receive an official answer. Thank you


And here is Christopher's reply on the 11th page:

Dear members,

Apologies for not being able to answer questions in this forum over the past few days as I was on a business trip in Korea.

It is true that TEC Interactive have been notified on the issue of IP block on 4 Jul 2009. It was with an interest due to complains from the other licensees. Apparently, the drastic surge of their players have posted a threat that TEC Interactive is solely responsible.

On this issue, TEC Interactive have advised the developer to listen to the players who are the valuable customers and we respect the developer's final decision. TEC Interactive did not at any time move into the territory of the respective licensees to promote Metin2 SG. Our focus have always been in South-East Asia. However, we can understand the vast majority of passionate Metin2 players who would like to continue their journey with a reliable publisher who can provide satisfactory customer service. Hence, we did not turn away any player who registered with us for Close Beta launch.

Over the past weeks, I did sense that pressure from the licensees is deepening and it is a matter of time where such measures will be imposed.

At the moment, I want you to know that TEC Interactive will continue to fight for our members who have supported us. At the end of the day, if you can access into our game server, you can be sure that you have been accepted. It is early now to speculate anything. More explanation will create more confusion. Let us do our work, quickly launch the game and provide you with a genuine answer.

At the least, we want you to know that Metin2 SG is a genuine licensee and not a private server or just a rumour as described by the other licensee. While other game publishers usually do not reply to such a thread and immediately move it to their recycle bin, we at TEC Interactive, are genuine to our members and as transparent as can be.

Thanks and regards,

Christopher
TEC Interactive Pte Ltd

why is YMIR using GMail while they have mail of their own? sorry that just popped out of the message lmao

why is YMIR using GMail while they have mail of their own? sorry that just popped out of the message lmao

It's hole a fake shit...Gmail lmao...that made me laugh so bad...did u hear? In German metin you can't write on wispher or chat Metinworld or tec-interactive because they are censored words lmao...those GF and G4Box GMs are just some assholes and they try to sabotage the SEA server.

I wouldn't be worried at all about the Yimir email thing if it wasn't for Chris' answer... If he replied that, something has to be going on... And the person who posted that supposed email might be faking it, but somehow knew about this issue... Competition, maybe?

not sure, but i dont think they will block it.. and if it does.. im sure theyre will be ways around it

Is not competition is playing dirty. When gms on .us said we r not worry about the ppls leaving coz many others will join, well was a huge crap. Coz ppls left, but few joined so they got scared and tryed this trick.

If it was a competition they would try to do something for please their customers and let them stay, but in this way they show how much they dont give a shit, the yshow only their interest in money. So i say it again, its not a competition

I wonder if there is anything we can do.

send a letter to YMIR stating i am unwilling to play metin2 on any of the G4 or GF servers because the service is horse shit?

do we start a petition?

I'm struggling to fit this shit into my head. I'm getting upset.

If I am blocked then all i will have left to do is spam the suba forum with profanity. Then make a new account. Spam again. Make a new account. Spam again. ugh -_-

I wonder if there is anything we can do.

send a letter to YMIR stating i am unwilling to play metin2 on any of the G4 or GF servers because the service is horse shit?

do we start a petition?

I'm struggling to fit this shit into my head. I'm getting upset.

If I am blocked then all i will have left to do is spam the suba forum with profanity. Then make a new account. Spam again. Make a new account. Spam again. ugh -_-

maybe its YMIR@hotmail.com this time

i am pro for the petition. But i will wait till Chris will give an official answer. If the block of ip stays i say to flood the mail of ymir till they either change mind or change mail

maybe its YMIR@hotmail.com this time

Are u sure?? It supposed to be YMIR@msn.com     

maybe its YMIR@hotmail.com this time

Are u sure?? It supposed to be YMIR@msn.com     
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or maybe its supprisingly YMIR@metin2.us LOL

lol I am so full of emotion and nowhere appropriate to direct it all!! Even if we get startted on the server and play i won't have peace of mind playing if their is the possibility that suddenly i am DCed and thats it...no more

...grr im still so upset ><

well you don't have to play
but it kinda ruins the hype if ips blocked

lol exactly, the timing just sucks.

Crono, I totally agree with you, when I said competition I meant that who posted that must be someone FROM the competition, from G4Box or GF, because if it is a hoax, it has to be someone who's updated about the business, since according to Chris, they were only informed about that on the 4th of July...

And, of course, they are playing REALLY dirty... They're too lazy to provide us with improvement even when thretened to loose customers, so they'd rather go behind our backs, masking themselves behind Yimir, imposing an IP block... It's how much they care about the community........ 

LOL but ymir can't use Gmail right ??
So 100% is a fake e-mail .
Even if Chris' answer scare me 

Doesn't christopher own the rights to metin2.sea server? And so if he does i THINK O_o that he purchased it from Ymir ( im kind of rusty on this topic)  So how can Ymir or tec- what ever its called tell him what to do or try to control his server ^_^.

Because he bought rights for advertise his server os south east asia. GF advertise his metin on europe. G4box or suba advertise metin in North America. Those 2 companies lost more then 3/4 of their customers while Chris server gained them, so they accused Tec of stealing their customers and break the contract rules. so they asked ymir to block the ip of non asian player.

question beside
any1 so far was able to download the client?
i would like to play sea but im not sure if im able to well im choosen for closed beta but i dont think it means anything
hopefully we all will be able to play metin sea i wont return to us anyways so if theres no sea for me ill quit in general

So when .sea must block IPs then .us must do it too.
That will be my answer,and what then?The .us server for example dies so fast cuz 70% are non-us.
The Gameforge-server are allready dead,cuz on every version you found the corrupt GMs who Bann Accounts and toke everything away.
Best example was on Metin2.de,the son of the CM had all items +9 and enchantet from his mummy.
The most german players remember well when you say only SUNSUN...The Answer from Gameforge was*That was a test account for new Items*...yeayea Gameforge and G4box 2 society who destroyed a realy great game...


I trust in Cris,but now its the time-thing.As long as the server aren't launched,more ppl think about a lie and go back to old Bullshit-server...
I stay behind the .sea Team and hope the best that Monster and his Staff will win this battle


My last word is when i CANT play on sea cuz suba and gameforge then i will never again play this game..

(and yes english isnt my lang so im sorry for mistakes )

@Buhmann im Metinforum steht das es wieder verschoben wurde.... check the link...http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=705&sid=a4e412f136e5a48ed80e6d983d9cf461

@ angel: wird also nix mit sea ab moin oda?

well it sucks that they are so stupid banning ips from customers from who they gain their money
and like angel said metin.de already died as almost every european version
so they shall stfu xD europa was dead before sea and us is still in use as im informed

hm, nu werft die flinte nich zu früh ins korn ...

Well,

if we get enough guys which spam to the YMIR-support, than we will get a positive reaction i think ...

they KNOW that they will have a HUGE profit out of us non-singapore guys, and if they are inteligent enough, they will scat on a ip-block ...

Just read this... i won't saying nothing about this... i just don't understand .
Click here > http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?sid=32242d0872780d747c916433ee3c0a56&lastaction=login&f=9&t=649

I can't believe all the posts you made about this trying to cause problems. It was bad enough in MetinWorld forum but you didn't stop there and did the same in Heretics forum. You're a drama queen and really need to grow up.

But still guys, even if somethn is true on those rumors, just lets chill 1-2 days ... im pretty sure that Chris will do his best ....

hopefully...

Just read this... i won't saying nothing about this... i just don't understand .
Click here > http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?sid=32242d0872780d747c916433ee3c0a56&lastaction=login&f=9&t=649

I can't believe all the posts you made about this trying to cause problems. It was bad enough in MetinWorld forum but you didn't stop there and did the same in Heretics forum. You're a drama queen and really need to grow up.

I can think what i want, is a free world .
And this won't be a problem for you if you believe metin2 sea isn't fake .
I can think what ever i want !
Anyway i saw screenshots on forum so now i know sea isn't fake .
But please stop with '' you think sea is fake ?? fuck you '' or something like that .
The true problem is when people start flame .
I didn't flame, i just said my opinion .
And please when a guy has a different idea, try to explain your motivations, don't start flaming !
If you start flame i can be offended and then you'll never be able to convince me about truth .
This is a discussion forum, i can say the sky is red, just explain me why si blue, but don't insult .

lol there are different ways to say ur opinions. U said it in 10-15 topics. Thats spam and bring to flame coz u were always saying the same dam thing.

So when .sea must block IPs then .us must do it too.
That will be my answer,and what then?The .us server for example dies so fast cuz 70% are non-us.
The Gameforge-server are allready dead,cuz on every version you found the corrupt GMs who Bann Accounts and toke everything away.
Best example was on Metin2.de,the son of the CM had all items +9 and enchantet from his mummy.
The most german players remember well when you say only SUNSUN...The Answer from Gameforge was*That was a test account for new Items*...yeayea Gameforge and G4box 2 society who destroyed a realy great game...


I trust in Cris,but now its the time-thing.As long as the server aren't launched,more ppl think about a lie and go back to old Bullshit-server...
I stay behind the .sea Team and hope the best that Monster and his Staff will win this battle


My last word is when i CANT play on sea cuz suba and gameforge then i will never again play this game..

(and yes english isnt my lang so im sorry for mistakes )

@Buhmann im Metinforum steht das es wieder verschoben wurde.... check the link...http://www.tec-interactive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=705&sid=a4e412f136e5a48ed80e6d983d9cf461

first, hi sweetheart, nice to see u again ^_^
do i understand u right? u would like to join sea??
although u already got the experience from german metin how it is with gms, playing normal ingame having too much power??
we all know that the gms from sea are mostly old players and christophers friends from metin us... so no real neutral person!
i can smell it already that 1 or 2 of them are going to use their gm for a bad reason, maybe helping a friend ingame with their powers...
that is something i definatly don't want to risk, playing again somewhere, where the corruption is daily, and i am sure now many will hate me for saying this, but be honest, the chance that this will be in sea too is high...

lol there are different ways to say ur opinions. U said it in 10-15 topics. Thats spam and bring to flame coz u were always saying the same dam thing.

Crono is ShinTuxu WinTuXu?

unless he suffered a lobotomy operation recently he is not

@Goldy

Even in us there were some GMs char that had also a normal player. And is funny how the staff admit this when ppls complain about Non GM in GAME (Drethis and Light both said to have 1 normal char) and deny this in situation like yesterday.

We know that .US had GMs chars, some of them even abused their powers, doing really lame things, maybe u know who i am talking about who knows

Whats the difference between .de .it .uk and so on respect to sea? That in sea we know that there will be gm in game playing among us, its not hidden.

I think that monster has always been a fair player so i am not worried about this matter. If there will be corruption in sea then i will apologies to u and say that u were right. But in the mid time you should think about the corruption on .us

unless he suffered a lobotomy operation recently he is not

No Crono ... you suffered a lobotomy .
I didn't open 10 topics ...

Thats what i mean, i never said u opened 10 topics i said u replyed with the same answer "sea is a fake" in 10-15 topics, without counting here and deathcity forum ofc.

Got it now? or u need a draw?

Thats what i mean, i never said u opened 10 topics i said u replyed with the same answer "sea is a fake" in 10-15 topics, without counting here and deathcity forum ofc.

Got it now? or u need a draw?

You left out Heretics forum. 
Hard to believe he's 19 like posted in his sig. My 4yr old is more mature.

I'm too lazy to go threw it a;; again.. heres a copy and paste from metin2.us forums for me...

What you guys dont understand, is its NOT G4BOX or Suba Games decision...
All these versions from different publishers or liscensing companys have contracts WITH Ymir to get players from THEIR region and they are NOT allowed to do any advertising etc in other versions or servers...
What happened was G4BOX and GameForge felt threatened that Tec-Interactive may be stealing or would steal THEIR customers or players.. they SUGEGSTED to Ymir that Metin2.sg have a IP block so that this wouldnt happen and they wouldnt lose players in their own servers.. SOOO, Ymir decided they'd make this IP block for Tec-Interactive's Metin2.. BUT Tec-Interactive absolutely hated the idea of it... so they have been argueing like mad w/ Ymir... as a result.. Ymir has decided that they would put this IP block on EVERY LISCENCED METIN2 SERVER so that ONLY the players from THEIR selected UNDER CONTRACT regions can play their game.. from my understanding, the accounts themselves will NOT be banned or blocked.. BUT those outside North America will NOT be able to sign onto metin2.us... same goes for "MetinWorld" "Metin2.uk" "Metin2.pl" "Metin2.ro" and every single other LISCENCED metin2 version... so German Metin2 players will only be able to play German Metin2... Romanians will be stuck playing Metin2.ro.. players located in Asia will be stuck to playing only Metin2 singapore..

SO you can say "oh this wont ever happen because most of the players are from outside teh country" BUT its NOT G4BOX's decision.. nor ANY OTEHR publishers decision.. it is souly Ymir's (the game developer) Decision..

Now, EVERYONE, understand this...
This IS a very possible outcome to the dispute or problem Ymir has encountered..
The ONLY hope is that Ymir decides to change ther mind and NOT go threw with it...

Bottom line is.. G4BOX and GameForge's idea or "plan" is backfiring on them...

Thanks all,
-Vamp

This is regarding the IP block situation... the reason why SEA is not up yet..

But i didn't post 2 times on same forum ... so what's the problem ??
And Crono, you spy DeathCity ??

I dont spy no1, simple ppls post their forum links and i click on them to see how the site is. In the center of deathcity page there was ur name with a big sign FAKE SEA so i clicked there and i saw all ur stupid posts.

Drop the subject, is better for ya, every post u make show how immature and dumb u r

OK guys ,
I live in Jordan (in middle east Asia), Which means i CAN join !
But as I'm reading the others can't??
Cs I'm not going to play .sea i you guys aren't coming..
So guys those who aren't in Asia, are you coming?

Well i posted here about sea just one topic, so stop with childish spam and insults .
You can take your spam on your own guild web site .
Topic locked .

we didn't starts teh flame warz